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Re: Rant

Post by Wayne » Sat Apr 21, 2018 8:38 pm

Peppercorn,

I'm glad your heart has stabilized. Rather than deflecting comments to C5, I'm interested in you weighing in and hearing your point-of-view...


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Re: Rant

Post by cernunnos5 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 4:37 am

I'm rather busy, it being spring. Projects to build. Food to produce. Are you not busy.

I'l get back to to this soon enough
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Re: Rant

Post by cernunnos5 » Tue May 08, 2018 12:48 am

In case you think I have forgotten about you....Neowwwwwww

I just put in 15 hundred willow with a 30lb breaker bar as security barriers. I have been rather busy.

In that time, the US has quietly cut off the millions of dollars to the White Helmets.......

OOPS. Sorry about your blown up family members

I need some time to re grow some brain cells before being a good man not doing nothing and allowing evil

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Re: Rant

Post by tazweiss » Thu Aug 16, 2018 3:04 am

My take on the Middle East.
In 1096, the Pope asked the nobility of Christendom to raise an army to retake Jerusalem and to make the holy lands safe for religious pilgrims. This was after 457 years of Muslim invasions, destruction, persecution, enslavement, pillaging, raping and murdering in the Christian lands. This was referred to as the first crusade. After the crusaders left, Muslims again gathered their armies and repeated their past performances. Again, Christendom gathered for another crusade. Eventually the Christian lands gave up on the crusades, but Islam never stopped their aggression. In fact, through the centuries, Islam has never stopped their violent opposition to all other religions and faiths.

Muslims the world over, refer to Islam as a peaceful religion as opposed to the violence of Christianity. I decided to research this a little bit and this is what I've learned. There are 109 passages in the Koran which advocate or justify violence against others for being non-Muslim. I'm not aware of any like passages in either the Old or New Testaments. When it comes to persecution, war and slaughter, violent Christianity is responsible for about 27 million people being murdered in the name of Christ, over the last 2000 years. By contrast, peaceful Islam can conservatively boast the slaughter of 125 million over the last 1400 years. To put this in perspective, if not one more person was ever again killed in the name of peaceful Islam, it would take more than another 7000 years for violent Christianity to spill as much blood.

Now, a question.
If a cattle rancher found that a pack of wolves was preying on his herd and killing one or two calves a week, is he going to just hope he can catch and deal with them. Or, is he going to get tired of it and go out to hunt them down and eliminate the threat, once and for all?
I'm not saying we should load up and go hunt Muslims. Nor am I saying we should hate them. What I am saying, is that outside of the oil issue, there is a good reason for taking the war to their lands. Yes, we could pull out of the middle east and say, "We will no longer bring war to them". History has shown though, that the gesture would mean little to nothing for Islam.
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Re: Rant

Post by helicopilot » Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:41 am

Taz, and what has this got to do with prepping?

The purpose of the forum is to share, educate, network... I think we can keep away from opinions on religions, race, ethnicity, cultures, etc. I appreciate you did some research and I certainly won't cover up history - it is what it is. However, I can truly see the post evolving into a pissing match on the matter.

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Re: Rant

Post by peppercorn » Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:48 am

[quote="tazweiss"] I'm not aware of any like passages in either the Old or New Testaments.

Don't be so modest I am pretty sure there is lots your not aware of taz. You and Henry must have taken bible studies together. I missed the class on the delusion that who murders the least is the best. Please fill me in....I so need to be morally enlightened about killing by a follower of a magic (but curently invisible) sky sorcerer. A sorcerer who apparently moonlights as a real estate broker but only for one people.

Was that scoring system for who kills the least is the best, in Deuteronomy? Maybe after this passage calling for the extermination of 6 groups of people that your exhaustive :roll: research missed,

16: But in the cities of these peoples that the LORD your God gives you for an inheritance, you shall save alive nothing that breathes,
17: but you shall utterly destroy them, the Hittites and the Amorites, the Canaanites and the Per'izzites, the Hivites and the Jeb'usites, as the LORD your God has commanded;


HP I am helping Taz, sharing information that he was apparently unable to find. I like to be helpful, its a fault of mine.

For you further enlightenment you might like the following

Richard Sapolsky from Stanford https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WwAQqWUkpI

Daniel Dennett https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tSLH345W_0&t=711s

Andy Thompson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iMmvu9eMrg
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Re: Rant

Post by tazweiss » Thu Aug 16, 2018 8:41 am

helicopilot wrote:Taz, and what has this got to do with prepping?

The purpose of the forum is to share, educate, network... I think we can keep away from opinions on religions, race, ethnicity, cultures, etc. I appreciate you did some research and I certainly won't cover up history - it is what it is. However, I can truly see the post evolving into a pissing match on the matter.
I wasn't trying to start a pissing match in this thread. But the thread did start with comments about why western militaries are currently engaged in the middle east. I was only trying to point out that historically, there is more to it than just "we want their oil'. I also wasn't trying to push my opinion one way or the other, I was providing some historical context to the wider conflict.
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Re: Rant

Post by Wayne » Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:15 am

peppercorn wrote: ...I missed the class on the delusion that who murders the least is the best. Please fill me in....I so need to be morally enlightened about killing by a follower of a magic (but curently invisible) sky sorcerer. A sorcerer who apparently moonlights as a real estate broker but only for one people.
Careful peppercorn, your disdain for religion is showing (as is your arrogance). Your particular opinion is well known to us (one that isn't shared by everyone). In any regard, it has no place on this forum.
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Re: Rant

Post by peppercorn » Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:18 pm

Wayne wrote:
peppercorn wrote: ...I missed the class on the delusion that who murders the least is the best. Please fill me in....I so need to be morally enlightened about killing by a follower of a magic (but curently invisible) sky sorcerer. A sorcerer who apparently moonlights as a real estate broker but only for one people.
Careful peppercorn, your disdain for religion is showing (as is your arrogance). Your particular opinion is well known to us (one that isn't shared by everyone). In any regard, it has no place on this forum.
Wayne, if I have made a factually incorrect statement I would be happy to correct it. My distain is for hypocrisy, most especially the hypocrisy in using murder as a claim to the superiority of one faith over another. I find it morally interesting you object to my counter post of Taz and think it has no place on the forum but don't object to mass murder as a grading system of religions...funny that!
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Re: Rant

Post by Denob » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:49 pm

I think this thread has run it's course.
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