USA preppers considered as terrorists.

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USA preppers considered as terrorists.

Post by tradesman » Thu Jun 11, 2015 11:58 am

Has anyone been following this subject? Do we Canadians have a similar amendment to our human rights to worry about. By letting government know, through Google searches and what not, are we painting ourselves a target?



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Re: USA preppers considered as terrorists.

Post by helicopilot » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:31 am

Tradesman,

Do you have further on this topic, as in reference articles on peppers being considered bad people?

I now reside in the USA and am following up with preparedness websites. I don't think that anyone is being targeted by "the Feds" for doing simple preparedness activities, though there seems that some may engage in activities that are more in-line with extremism than preparedness.

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Re: USA preppers considered as terrorists.

Post by tradesman » Fri Jun 12, 2015 5:46 am

There are lots of video on the web, start a search with "preppers considered as terrorists" and you will find what your looking for. It's not looking too good for a USA citizen prepper.
I'll give you starters, here is a PDF file ; http://www.shtfplan.com/images/articlep ... sStore.pdf
Some more links; http://endoftheamericandream.com/archiv ... terrorists
http://offgridsurvival.com/randpaulwarn ... ncitizens/
http://www.infowars.com/national-guard- ... errorists/
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Re: USA preppers considered as terrorists.

Post by Denob » Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:13 pm

There are a lot of different "levels" of preppers...
We see the power failure prepper, who has a basic power fail kit with flashlights, radio, water, f/a kit, etc.
The we have a more advanced version of that, where food and water storage goes up to a few months, tools, gear, and skills are gathered...the kind of self reliant prepper if you will.
Then there are preppers who seem more concerned about what the government is doing, which is great, but it can go WAY beyond reasonable concern and get into a "fight the man" type of prepper. Usually more concerned with firearms and ammunition, these guys sometimes border on extremism...which is where I could sort of understand the government keeping an eye on them.
The average prepper keeps under the radar...gathering food, tools, and other supplies and learning to be self reliant for a given period of time. As such, no one is bothering them or really keeping an eye on them, because there, well, harmless (unless provoked of course).

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Re: USA preppers considered as terrorists.

Post by cernunnos5 » Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:31 pm

I thought I would chime in. If you have been around the survivalist world long enough, you will realise that there is a percentage of preppers that ARE terrorists. The Timothy Mcvieghs haven't gone away. They recruit based around prepper fears and fantasies... and hopes...but more on that later. You are far more likely to be on watchlists is you are Native, an environmentalist or a leftist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2sjJR8p8ck

I read this over someone's shoulder yesterday. https://independentaustralia.net/politi ... sport,7813
It should get you concerned about Canada's Bill C51

Yes, there is a popular fantasy in prepperdome and especially amongst the right, the guberment is collecting "Red Lists" of Christians to put them death camps buy cattle cars, intending to give them the number of the beast through microchips. This gets re written nowdays with less religios overtones.
I don't have time today to talk about the influences of Christian Reconstructionists (Rushdouni\ Gary North) on modern Survivalism\ Preppping or the militant aspects that link to The Christian Patriots Defence League ( a revolutionary arm of the KKK). If you are advocating and acting apon the violent overthrow of the government, its rather silly to suddenly be shocked when the government considers you a terrorist. "Shocked! Shocked, I say..."

OK. Back to the Hope Fantasy part . Pay attention to the first half of this post from My favorite Asperger's. http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.ca/2 ... ution.html

One of the great dangers to new preppers is the competing interest that are actively recruiting YOU. Some of them are well finance by corporate and political interest.
Don't always assume that someone using the term "Prepper" is correct in their thinking. Read from many different perspectives. Wade through the different perspective. Remember, You are a consumer of the product that people are trying to sell you. You are the mark.

I have a C5 Rule of Survival- There is no such thing as a prepper expert. Anyone that claims to be is just trying to sell you something, whether that is a product, service, political or religious view.
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Re: USA preppers considered as terrorists.

Post by tradesman » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:07 pm

cernunnos5 wrote:I thought I would chime in. If you have been around the survivalist world long enough, you will realise that there is a percentage of preppers that ARE terrorists. The Timothy Mcvieghs haven't gone away. They recruit based around prepper fears and fantasies... and hopes...but more on that later. You are far more likely to be on watchlists is you are Native, an environmentalist or a leftist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2sjJR8p8ck

I read this over someone's shoulder yesterday. https://independentaustralia.net/politi ... sport,7813
It should get you concerned about Canada's Bill C51

Yes, there is a popular fantasy in prepperdome and especially amongst the right, the guberment is collecting "Red Lists" of Christians to put them death camps buy cattle cars, intending to give them the number of the beast through microchips. This gets re written nowdays with less religios overtones.
I don't have time today to talk about the influences of Christian Reconstructionists (Rushdouni\ Gary North) on modern Survivalism\ Preppping or the militant aspects that link to The Christian Patriots Defence League ( a revolutionary arm of the KKK). If you are advocating and acting apon the violent overthrow of the government, its rather silly to suddenly be shocked when the government considers you a terrorist. "Shocked! Shocked, I say..."

OK. Back to the Hope Fantasy part . Pay attention to the first half of this post from My favorite Asperger's. http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.ca/

One of the great dangers to new preppers is the competing interest that are actively recruiting YOU. Some of them are well finance by corporate and political interest.
Don't always assume that someone using the term "Prepper" is correct in their thinking. Read from many different perspectives. Wade through the different perspective. Remember, You are a consumer of the product that people are trying to sell you. You are the mark.

I have a C5 Rule of Survival- There is no such thing as a prepper expert. Anyone that claims to be is just trying to sell you something, whether that is a product, service, political or religious view.
I too have a rule of survival; stay invisible, and trust no one, keep a look out so you see them coming.

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Re: USA preppers considered as terrorists.

Post by cernunnos5 » Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:59 am

Here is a perfect example. Remember all that prepper hoi about the guberment making it illegal to collect rainwater. It certainly read in your above mentioned sights like ShitOfAPlanFan and the type two bipolar at infowars. Turns out, It was a big heaping pile. But it sure makes those guys rich in advertising.

http://www.resilience.org/stories/2015- ... he-commons

You are going to have to fall for a few of them before becoming wise to the manipulation.
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Re: USA preppers considered as terrorists.

Post by helicopilot » Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:04 am

Interestingly, some prepare against a government uprising (you know, the FEMA camps and all?) and having the Feds out to get them. These folks can be pretty outspoken, talk of having arsenals to protect themselves against government forces and post everything online, which will, in turn, bring attention to them by... The Feds?!?!

Intelligence isn't a requirement to declare oneself a prepper...

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Re: USA preppers considered as terrorists.

Post by cernunnos5 » Sun Jun 21, 2015 4:59 am

Though it's a little off topic, I think this appropriately fits here. Right-wing Terrorists Kill More Americans Than Islamic Extremists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJiE6_xJ6Zk
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Re: USA preppers considered as terrorists.

Post by endangeredspecies » Sun Jun 21, 2015 6:07 pm

maybe not terrorist but people living off the grid are almost criminal in usa

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